by Ernest L. Norman

Instead of approaching as many do on bended knee, it is much more factual to say that when we go about, in everything we do–are we or are we not expressing a certain component of Infinite Intelligence? When we begin to obtain our linkage or our hookup and see this manifested in our daily walk of life, then we are going to see life demonstrated abundantly. We should not pray from our own selfish desires, from the bended knee, such as “Oh God, save me from my own sins and iniquities.” Such a prayer merely means that you are totally unaware of the Great Infinite Intelligence within you for you to use.

I can demonstrate this point a little more clearly this way. A grandmother called on the telephone about two months ago. She told me about a baby three months old who had encephalitis, or brain damage. The doctors gave it up to die. I told her the forces were already in action. She wanted to know what she should do. I told her, “You don’t need to do anything but just stay positive.” She asked me if I didn’t need help in praying. I told her that I knew that the baby was going to be helped. I maintained the affirmative realization. This baby, up to this time, was under sedation twenty-four hours a day and the physicians held no hope for its recovery. Within three days the baby was taken off sedation. He recognized his parents and became normal. The forces were set in motion by that simple affirmation of faith. This case is only one of literally thousands of similar ones. I have never seen these people and won’t need to.

Q – How could we use this principle?

A – It ultimately resolves into a complete conclusion and understanding of faith, because when the person understands these concepts regarding energy, etc., which we are teaching, these basic elements, we understand the Creative Principle. When we understand and know how the Infinite works through these Principles, we no longer separate ourselves from It and we become an active, integrated, working part of the Infinite. You then become an element in everything in which the Creation manifests Itself, you become like the wire which leads the electricity into your home. It is like learning to ride a bicycle; we learn through experience and thus acquire knowledge and wisdom. All of the things which we should do, we basically are. As you are now, you have just separated yourselves simply because you have accepted negative concepts.

Q – Could there possibly have been a karmic condition with this baby?

A – Yes, indeed, there was. I was able to see in a past life that 300 years ago, the mother in a fit of anger had killed the child and this life was another opportunity to correct the error and work it out.

Q – Are there karmic conditions that cannot be corrected or healed?

A – There are no karmic conditions which cannot be healed when the person will realize it and when proper conditions of attunement are brought into play. There may be a thought pattern which may take you a while to wean yourself away from, but your true condition has been canceled out immediately the moment you focus your mind upon it and realize what this psychic impingement is. It is canceled because your super intelligence or the Infinite Mind force comes into action, and with the aid of the savants or learned minds in the spiritual dimensions who are working with these things, these negations, they are instantly canceled out.

Q – If the grandparent hadn’t called you, would the baby have had to carry this karma?

A – That baby would have died within three days time and carried the karma along in subsequent lifetimes.

Q – Boys have to go to war whether they want to or not and they have to kill people whether it is against their will or willingly?

A – This business of having to do something! You know, when we get to the point when we start living in the spiritual dimensions, there we will find out we don’t have to do anything. What we are doing, we are merely relating ourselves up and down the scale of evolution according to what is contained in our mind.

Q – Yes, we might know that, but do these boys in masses know that?

A – If they are all of the same opinion and are conscientious objectors, there would be no wars because the leaders would have to go out and fight the wars and there wouldn’t be any. So what we have to do in the future is to make everybody a conscientious objector.

Q – Could you give an idea of what some of the spiritual reasons might be that would determine the individual’s frequency?

A – Yes, there are ways of determining these things. We pointed out to you that even in our terrestrial dimension of hundreds of thousands of vibrations per second means absolutely nothing to the individual. When we go into the spiritual dimension and we have a complete absence of time, even in our commonly accepted terminology, then we have energy existing in such fantastic frequency rates and vibrations, they are absolutely incomprehensible. It wouldn’t actually mean anything to you if you did know whether you were functioning on two or three million megacycles per second. But what we are more concerned in is the net result as they are coming out here in this dimension and how we can go back and correct through the mind forces. Because the idea of frequency relationship itself, while very vital and necessary, yet the whole thing resides in a dimension completely abstract from your own present understanding.

Q – Could you describe further about the way the child was healed?

A – Yes, we went on to explain further to the grandmother that in a previous lifetime her daughter had, in a fit of anger, killed that baby and in their spiritual hookup after death when they were in the spiritual world, the child and mother had gotten together and agreed to come back into this world at the right time so that the mother would give the child a chance this time for life and work out the karma in her own self. Three hundred years ago that mother had killed the baby–perhaps accidentally, but nevertheless there was still the sense of guilt there with it–a guilt complex–and that was what she had to cancel out–the negation.

Q – If the condition cannot be healed, then they must continue carrying it over and over?

A – There is no condition that cannot be healed instantly if the person realizes it. You may have a thought pattern that may take you a little time to wean yourself away from but nevertheless your true condition has been canceled out immediately when you realize and recognize what that psychic impingement is. It is canceled because your Super Intelligence–the Infinite force–comes into action and with the help of the Savants, Intelligences and Learned Minds in the spiritual dimensions and people of that nature with whom we are working, those negations and psychic shocks are instantly canceled out.

Q – Then becoming conscious of these negations is necessary in attaining freedom from the carnal world?

A – Indeed so, there is no greater need or importance.

Q – So how does one get these forces working with him?

A – We will again go back up there in that spiritual dimension, back to the time when we have ‘kicked the frame’ as the yogi says and as we are there in these inner dimensions, we make contact. Now everything is based on concept, if we cannot conceive the higher dimensions we would not go there, would we? It would be very foreign to your nature to go anywhere that you could not so conceive it or that you could not have realized existed. So naturally when you go on into these spiritual dimensions, it is even much more so than it is here because then you are functioning on vibration alone–not by instinct but by vibration; so you will go automatically to the planes or astral worlds to which you are best suited or that which you can visualize. To conceive anything there is to instantly place yourself in that thing whatever it may be.

When you die and you visualize yourself as being in Fresno, you will be in Fresno; you can be in Fresno and Los Angeles at the same time if you have enough concept in your mind to so visualize it. So we always go into these spiritual dimensions for which we are best suited. The further along the path we advance, the higher the contacts we maintain from the higher spiritual dimensions on up, just as I pointed out to you here through these vortexes. There are many, many spiritual planes; we get into the astral worlds as the yogi calls it, “the triad”. First, there is the Brahma which is the all-permeating purpose, the force of the Infinite; Vishnu, the preserver of life which is called prana; Shiva, which is the material world, the world of expression or maya or delusion. Does that help?

Student: Yes.

Q – Then we must begin to realize that we are a form or part of the Infinite, is that right?

A – Yes, that is true; it is exactly right. The Christian or the fundamentalist in the church is so fouled up in that concept that he has isolated it to Christ alone, not realizing that the whole mission of Jesus on this earth was to point out that every one of us was also a part of that Infinite Cause or God.

Now the Superconsciousness, the Christ Self, is realization; when we realize what and who we are and how we are linked up to the Infinite, that we are an actual participating ingredient of intelligence, then we begin to get somewhere; but we don’t until we do. That is the state that Buddha called Nirvana–self-discrimination, self-realization.

Q – By what process does one sharpen his intuitive faculties to obtain this awareness that we can recognize this when it takes place?

A – Let me answer that rather indirectly: How many months after you were born into this world were you nursed before you were weaned and how many months after the weaning was it that you crawled about the floor before you walked and how many months after that was it that you took your first steps and were really sure of yourself? Wisdom comes the same way. We learn these things gradually; there are no shortcuts. It is on the threshold of perception and conception and that is the sum and substance of all those little vortexes that go to make up the psychic body.

To the materialist who runs around all day and is concerned with nothing but sex, cigarettes and various other things of the material world, that is all his psychic body is made up from–those negative experiences, the forms of transposition. But when he shakes the mortal coil of flesh and goes over into the astral, what does he have to go on? Absolutely nothing because those vibrations do not function well in this astral world; he finds himself in what the Catholic calls purgatory. Actually, there isn’t such a thing; it is only his concept because now he is completely out of his vibration, attunement and harmony with the astral worlds in which he finds himself. He is a fish out of water–a man dropped in the middle of a jungle out of a parachute, without any equipment, in the dead of the night, with the lions running around him.

Q – In reading past lives as you do it, we understand it is simple for you, but how does one go about the back-tracking and find proper frequencies, etc.?

A – If you realize this, and it could be of help to many of you here, because I know there are many good mentalities in the class and I am very grateful to be in association with them for they are mentalities that could, in time, be doing some of these greater miracles, just as Jesus said when they become conscious of what and who they are. No, these abilities are not acquired overnight–there must be an integration. And many times you have many pictures in your mind which you think is imagination. Strictly from the material plane, there is no such thing as an imagination because imagination is only the sum and total of a collective group of experiences to which you are relating yourself and you are trying to integrate a formula of some basic concept. Now you have the other kind of pictures come into your mind which come from the psychic self or which may link you up to the psychic centers of radiation or taking in, as we say. We have a little television set in our heads and we also have a little transmitter; we begin taking in these pictures inwardly and if we see them as reality and express them as they come to us, we will often find out they are true. That’s the beginning. Later on you arrive at different factors and states of integration as we call it (the sync pulses as they existed in that television screen) and you can sit down and consciously do that. Or you can do it while riding down the street on a bus or even in the bathtub or where you so desire; it just comes naturally and from then on you do not live in this world anymore–you are in it but not of this world.

You will find too that your life will change in many ways. I have experienced these things and know whereof I speak. You even lose your friends. You may even lose your husband or wife; these things move so swiftly around and within you that you are sometimes swept off your feet with the projectory of spiritual progression that you have no idea of the vast change. In the course of a few months time you find yourself advanced thousands of years because we have linked up certain cycles in our little watch of universal concept. We have made integration of the cycular patterns as they exist. It is very basic and fundamental, isn’t it? It is the answer to all questions. We have been trying to get these things to the scientists for years. I have had them tell me, “Well, I do not know what it is; I do not understand it now, but maybe in 50 or 100 years from now science will understand these principles.” They are beginning to and they shall. I have all the time in the world. It makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Q – In one of the scientific magazines lately, I read that “God will be proved in the laboratories.” This is it, isn’t it?

A – That is correct; this IS it; this IS it! Because when we start linking ourselves up then, as Kung Fu said, “It is a matter of whether the tail is wagging the dog or the dog wagging the tail.” Science, up until now, has been the tail trying to wag the dog because it has been figuring things from the material dimension instead of starting from the higher dimensions from where they should be figured; seeing this is only the end result–the material dimensions are always the lowest form. From here we go into subinfinity.

Q – Then the scientists have been treating the effects rather than the cause?

A – That is exactly right. They are searching in the human body for causes of the incurable ills. Cerebral palsy, cancer, diabetes, arthritis–anything you can name that the scientist or the doctor cannot cure–and they shake their heads and say they do not know what causes that–why a child is born with, or but a few months old should have diabetes is beyond their concept; but it means that the child had diabetes in a previous lifetime and he is only trying to work it out, and he needs a little help and understanding. He had something happen to him and it needs correction. He does not need a lot of poking and prodding or to be taken some place and half-starved and shocked into something terrible.

Q – Along another line of thought is not fear and insecurity a general contributor to man’s ills?

A – We incurred our first big sense of insecurity when we were first weaned as far as this lifetime is concerned. We came into the world and we were hungry; that was our first fear, so they shoved the nipple in our mouth and the fear left, so the next few months we build our whole world around the nipple and the mother’s breast is the sense of security–the mother’s love. And then just about the time things were settling down and going good, they took it away from us; so what did we have–we had a great big sense of insecurity–our first neurosis. That’s why little boys and girls go out and eat dirt and chew their wax crayons when they go to school and when they grow up they have to put cigarettes in their mouths and smoke. Cigarette smoking is grown-up thumb-sucking or nipple-nursing. That is all; it is simply from weaning a person. And so far as putting such things as needles, etc., into our system–as someone brought up one day–it is very wrong indeed, but it is just as wrong to take these poisons into our mouths and lungs as it is any other way.

There are 32 different poisons in every cigarette, including furfural, which is the most deadly poison known to the medical pharmacopeia. There is also enough nicotine in one cigarette to poison a good-sized dog. Nicotine is an alkaloid; in the process of combustion that takes place in the burning of a cigarette, one can develop what is known as coal tar processes and any chemist can verify this–that they have extracted something like 500,000 different kinds of chemical elements from coal tar which are products of this combustion that takes place in the smoking of a cigarette. Same thing with acetenella, assesaphedine and all your codeines; every one of your synthetic drugs that a doctor will give for alleviating pain are contained in the cigarette in one form or another or they are by-products from it by rearranging the molecular structures of the coal tar substance. Not only that, but one of the greatest dangers in smoking is what is called carbon monoxide precipitation. In the normal processes of living, the person who does not smoke and lives out in the country would have anywhere from one and a half to two percent carbon monoxide precipitation in the blood stream; that is a product of metabolism.

When you get into the city and begin inhaling automobile fumes, smoke from incinerators and cigarettes, your carbon monoxide runs up to six and seven percent. These were tests made here in Los Angeles just about a year ago. If the individual smokes, he increases that carbon monoxide precipitation up to twelve or thirteen percent and fourteen percent is considered fatal. Many people who are running around the streets today–and they are not running, they are dragging–are in and out of the hospitals and clinics with nothing wrong with them physically but they just smoke. There are hundreds of thousands of them and any doctor can tell you that this is true.

Q – Chemical poisons are in many things that we eat like the famous soft drink, etc., are they not?

A – Yes, it once was a fact there used to be twelve grains of caffeine in every bottle of Coca Cola (I do not know whether or not this is true today) and the food and drug businesses raised such a furor they had to stop it. That is just one small item.

An M.D. on the Los Angeles Health Board made this statement in the clamor about smog. He said you can take one drag from a cigarette and you get more smog in your lungs than you would inhaling the worst smog in 24 hours!

Q – As I understand it with these cravings, etc., when people pass over into the astral they do not lose these cravings but they still yearn for these things, such as cigarettes and they have no instrument with which to satisfy them; then would not this be purgatory for them?

A – That’s quite true because you see you are arriving at this point that all experience resolves itself into wave forms and has gone into making the psychic body. The psychic body is the pure by-product of everything that we are and reflects outwardly in everything that we do. It is much bigger than the subconscious. The subconscious is but a part of it that functions in the low orders of the lower dimensions of relationship. The reason we do not get rid of these habits when they are incurred that way is simply because we are looking for them in the wrong place–in the human body where they do not originate but are reflecting outwardly into the physical, just as we explained about the television screen. We must look back where they really are in the spiritual self, the psychic body, before we find them.

Q – Then how does a person over there on the spiritual planes overcome those things?

A – In the first place, several big things happen to you. Many people go over into the spiritual dimensions and have these thought forms so firmly embedded in their psychic consciousness that they function along that line for a number of years until they finally wake up and realize that it is wrong, i.e., smoking, alcoholism and other perverted habits. We can say that a person goes over into spirit who has smoked very heavily here; he smokes there for a while until he gains his equilibrium and realizes how unnecessary it is; then he quits.

Q – How does he smoke there?

A – Do you know over there that these spiritual elements which you have in your mind and your psychic self are just as tangible over there as things you have in your hands here today in this dimension. It is no different. It is in the threshold of conception. You will live exactly in the same world that you believe in.

Q – You mean that the person would actually create them?

A – Well, you must bear this in mind too–that your relationships all around you are different and that your time or arrival where you get your equilibrium or when you ‘wake up’ will arrive much more quickly than it does in the terrestrial dimension because previous to that time when you did not smoke, for instance, up in that spiritual plane sometime or another you did not have those elements in your psychic body.

Q – Would this not be similar to, say if one had a dream where he was falling off a cliff or some such and you were able to go into his consciousness and tell him it was not true, that he was but dreaming, he’d not be able to believe you (would he?) and would go right on believing that he was actually falling? Would this not be similar to the man with the desire for cigarettes in the astral–that he believed it so strongly?

A – Yes, that would be fantasy or illusion if we wish to put it that way because in an infinite or an abstract way we can conceive anything in our minds that we wish to. Yes, it is sort of a dream state they express in the astral until they learn better.

Q – Smoking didn’t seem to do William James any harm.

A – He lived to be sixty-eight and smoked and drank liquor every day, etc. We always say that a man who smokes heavily and lives to be a hundred and brags about the smoking and liquor drinking could have lived to be a hundred and twenty if he had not done so. Any doctor will tell you that a man who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day shortens his life one year out of five. In other words when he lives five years by smoking a pack a day, he’d live six years without it. These are medical facts which were given at a big convention at San Francisco. We have all this information at home and can bring it to you if you’d like. (Since this talk has been made, the famous Surgeon General’s Report from the Government has verified all these statements and many more.)

Q – How about coffee and tea? Don’t those things have caffeine in them?

A – Yes, that’s right and caffeine is a stimulant; however, smoking is much worse because it not only contains all these drugs but contains carbon monoxide precipitation. You only get a little caffeine; you get 2 1/2 grains of caffeine in a cup of coffee and most of it passes off in the kidneys, is flushed out; a little of it goes into the blood stream and acts as a stimulant. But the alkaloids like nicotine that you get in a cigarette are depressive.

Q – Do you believe that cigarettes are more harmful than liquor?

A – Yes, I believe of the two evils that cigarette smoking is the most insidious because it does not have an appreciable effect at the moment; it is much more insidious in its nature but also much more damaging in the long run because if you get to be alcoholic, you either drink yourself to death in a few years time or you will quit.

Q – Would cigars be as bad?

A – Well, one does not actually inhale a cigar; he swallows the juice from the end of the cigar; one is taking into the body all of that solution of saliva and saturation from the tobacco plant itself, but poison is still obtained. They (the cigar smokers) say they do not inhale but they swallow; they take a breath every time when it goes down whether or not they are conscious of it.

Q – After one arrives at a more progressive point, does he then return to earth more or less often?

A – Oh yes, his cycles are then stepped up, as the hoop rolling downhill gains momentum. He can return in a matter of months, weeks, days or even moments. Time is not the motivating factor but rather, it is the cycles, one’s drive and his ties to the earth. In accident cases too, (not motivated from the past), one will often bounce right back; he will immediately attach himself to a new fetus with no time lapse whatsoever on the astral.

The previous mentions were for the average person firmly tied to his earth-materialistic habits, obsessions, etc.

Excerpt from The Infinite Concept Of Cosmic Creation – Lesson Five Q&A

See Part I here.